Collapsing Narcissism in Caregiving: Creating Respect and Balance at Home - Episode 110
Are you a family caregiver feeling drained, unseen, and caught in toxic family dynamics? Do you find yourself constantly navigating the challenging behaviors of a narcissistic parent or relative while trying to provide care? You are not alone, and this episode is a beacon of hope for you.
In this transformative episode of the Caregiver Relief Podcast, host Diane is joined by researcher and author Amy Vasterling to discuss a groundbreaking concept: collapsing narcissism in caregiving to create an environment of respect, balance, and well-being. Amy, author of the new book No: Where the Status Quo Ends and You Come to Life, shares insights from over 22 years of observational research to help you reclaim your power.
This conversation is a must-listen for anyone struggling with the emotional weight of caregiving within a narcissistic family system.
What You'll Discover in This Episode 💡
Here’s a sneak peek at the powerful topics Diane and Amy explore:
- 🧠 What is "Personal Knowing"? Learn about this simple yet profound concept of trusting your own inner guidance and why it’s a caregiver's most powerful tool for navigating toxic dynamics.
- ⛓️ Breaking "The Model": Amy explains how society operates within a hierarchical "model" of control and how stepping out of it is the key to finding peace and natural equality.
- 🐘 The Power of Highly Sensitive People (HSPs): Discover why Amy calls HSPs the "elephants of the world" and how their unique sensitivities are actually a superpower for creating positive change in family systems.
- 🔄 How to Change a Pattern: Hear Amy's stunning story about shifting a lifelong family dynamic with her father, who was in a memory care unit, leading to a moment of profound clarity and healing.
- ✋ A Practical Tip for Chaos: Amy shares a simple physical technique—digging your fingernails into your hand—to keep yourself grounded and prevent you from getting drawn into a narcissist's drama.
- ⚖️ Boundaries and Balance: Get practical advice on how to set firm boundaries with unhelpful siblings and family members without feeding into the conflict.
- 💖 A Final Message of Hope: Find encouragement in Amy’s final message about the importance of discovering where you truly belong to find the natural support you deserve.
Key Moments & Powerful Insights ✨
Understanding the Root of the Problem
Amy introduces the concept of "narcissistic social disordering," suggesting that wherever we have an unmet need, we tend to operate from a place of control. This control is part of what she calls "the model," a system designed to maintain or advance our place in a hierarchy. For caregivers dealing with a narcissist, this model is a constant source of tension. The narcissist refuses to give up control, while the caregiver often feels powerless.
Reclaiming Your "Personal Knowing"
One of the most empowering ideas from this episode is "personal knowing". Amy explains that from childhood, we are often taught to mistrust our own feelings. Parents, teachers, and even doctors may tell us, "I know better for you than you know for yourself". This erodes our ability to trust our intuition. Reclaiming your personal knowing is the first step to setting boundaries and making choices that protect your well-being, even if others don't understand them.
"The doctors would look at all my markers that were off and say, 'you're fine.'... I am not fine." - Amy Vasterling on trusting her personal knowing during a six-year journey with chronic Lyme disease.
Shifting the Power Dynamic
How do you "collapse" narcissism? Amy explains that it’s not about fighting the narcissist head-on. Instead, the power lies with the "enabler" or the person on the other side of the dynamic. By refusing to feed the drama and stepping out of the control model, you starve the narcissistic behavior of the attention it needs to thrive.
This involves being honest about what you can and cannot do. If you're overwhelmed, it's okay to say, "I'm not able to care for dad anymore," and explore other options without letting guilt pull you back into the old pattern.

Your Final Message of Hope
If you're feeling isolated, Amy's final message is a powerful reminder:
"Find out where you do belong. Find out where your heart is at home, because when you find that you're gonna find natural help that is like you and natural support that is built the way you're built... that's what we need is we need the people and the connection that are true for us and that changes everything".
Connect with Amy Vasterling
Want to learn more from Amy? You can find her here:
- Website: https://amyvasterling.com/
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AmyCernyVasterling
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amyintuitivepathfinder
- Mailing List: https://golden-grass-244.myflodesk.com/gpyckel8y9
This episode is more than just a conversation; it's a lifeline for caregivers who feel like they're drowning. Listen to the full episode to absorb all the wisdom from Amy Vasterling and start your journey toward balance, respect, and peace at home.
Don't forget to check out Amy's new book, No: Where the Status Quo Ends and You Come to Life!
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